[-empyre-] Matrixial Encounters

[Kate Southworth <katesouthworth@gloriousninth.com>]

4/12/05 4:36ryan griffisgrifray@yahoo.com

> i think Kate's use of 'co-' as a prefix seems a great thought pattern
> that problematizes what i wrote above.

I'd just like to clarify that this use of 'co-' is drawn completely from
Bracha Ettinger's work, not my own.

> in terms of 'matrixial aesthetics' and ethics, i think subRosa's
> activities are relevant (not just because this project uses the word
> 'matrixial' in its title :)
> http://www.cyberfeminism.net/projects/doc/mx.html

I'd like to take Ryan's suggestion that subRosa's activities are relevant
and explore this a little more.  I am a great fan of what's happening at
subRosa, and am particularly fond of a good number of pieces on this site.
In fact, I was taking a re-look at a few pieces earlier this week, and as I
was doing so, I was thinking about whether or not these works were actually
engaging within a Matrixial space or not.  I'm not sure, but I think that
maybe, like much feminist work, it is really working at the limits of
phallic logic and not transgressing those boundaries to move into an
expanded Symbolic.

4/12/05 19:19marcmarc.garrett@furtherfield.org
> I feel that there is always a place
>where re-defining, mutually asserting, evaluating and sharing such a
>process of matrixial aesthetics, is needed. Mainly because it seems that
>it has not been declared or fully realized yet.

I'd also like to try and explore Marc's ideas further, and in relation to
the idea of transgressing the limits of phallic logic to move into a
matrixial symbolic, (not dismissing the phallic, but allowing an expanded
symbolic to include other potential perspectives) start to articulate a
co-emerging understanding of this aesthetic with others on this list.

I think in trying together to articulate this aesthetic, we will be touching
upon the questions posed throughout this discussion - of how to transgress
without doing so in the language, shape, form of that being transgressed.

Kate






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